Originally Posted by
jungle
Violence has always been the least effective long term method of changing anyones mind, but it has always been viewed as handy, because reason was always in such short supply.
I remember the interview with Bin Laden after 9-11 where he said: "you will be defeated because you love life. We however, love death - and that is the difference between us."
How does one "reason" with that? Perhaps all those that have tried thus far lacked your ability to reason.
Originally Posted by
jungle
Plowshares may be beaten back into swords, but no amount of hammering makes the senseless sensible.
Violence against the peaceful is senseless. Defense against violence is not only sensible, it is virtuous.
You appear to be one of those folks that like very much to be free, but would accept subjugation if it meant no violence. I've never understood that. I hope the peace you seek is worth the price you may have to pay.
Carl