Originally Posted by
MatchPoint
Wow, nice one there chief. That's what you base your reasoning upon?
I agree that our FO's deserve far more than 1% and they should get the same Brad Holt Override as our CA's but there's a reason why the gap exist at every airline and that reason shouldn't need to be explained.
Side note, I am very happy the group that got the largest raise was our EMB FO's. In every package since I've come to SKW our EMB FO's have been left out so it's about time they got something. Although I do feel it should have been at least 10%.
Yeah? I based it on that among other Things....meaning that our group of FOs are not first year new hires or second year or third year and in many cases they came with more experience than the Captains they fly with and after a few years in the company they probably in some cases do a better job than some Captains.
Does that hurt much to accept? yeah maybe but these FOs may have families exactly like the Captain.
Example: Captain is a 7 year making $73 while "managing" and the FO is a 4 years making $39 while doing a lot of the work. That is 87% more pay than the FO working together sharing all the time and work and sometimes the FO even working harder. Is that fair, yes it may be for some....specially for some captains....specially for the ones that upgraded really fast and never had to experience years and years of low pay...
That is all ok to me as long as they are offered at least the same raise.
If you think that picture is insulting someone or you are not familiar with it then I dont know how to explain it to you. I am not saying that all pictures of work days are like that but that scenario exists and that may be acceptable and very ok specially for the Captains.
What it is not ok is that the lower paid FO that is working as hard for the succes of the company as any Captain is offered less that the (relative to the FO) very well paid Captain in the same flight deck.
If the Company thinks that if the FAA would grant "Single pilot operations" they could fire all FO and the operation would run the same they are highly mistaken. (That arrogant mentality have been around for long).
The FOs in my opinion plays as an important part of the operation as the Captain and deserves better recognition from their leaders.
Yeah I am happy for the brother FOs flying the BRO but we all know that the pay in the industry is (or should be) per seat ( at least we think it is) and the 50 the last time I saw has much more seats than the BRO so while they got 5% offer to close the gap a litle with their Captain pay, the CRJ FO is insulted with 1% and even lower than what it is offered to the CRJ Captains.
CRJ FOs should been offered the same raise as the BRO FOs 5% to close the gap a litle comparing to the Captains.
An Embraer 120 4 year FO is getting approximate $1 per seat per hour.
A 4 year CRJ FO is today getting approximate $0.78 per seat per hour, not to mention when they fly the 700 or 900.
Whom of them is the less paid comparing with company revenues for the amount of seats?
Why is it that the gap between the BRO FOs and their Captain can be less but not between an CRJ FO and Captain,...Can it be because of future BRO FOs coming from United????
the CRJ FO got the list expanded to 8 years to top at $45
An 8 year CRJ Captain is paid $75 or 65 % more than a top out CRJ FO. After that the captains salary is increased to top out at 20 years and the difference is just ridiculous. The top Captain gets 148% more than a top FO.