Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
FtB;
What I am is asking as a regional carrier ever been able to gain flying by their section six negotiations alone?
Do you think that having these regional carriers under ALPA where we could decided not to sign a CBA that did just that yield some sort of power? I do.
I understand that, I just hope the powers that be would decide that way.
I agree that it'd be tremendous power but do you think you would have to draw a line in the sand at some point and say as ALPA National we're going to do everything we can to stop scope errosion and whipsaws. Could ALPA national ever exhort that kind of pressure on individual mainline MECs? Or even set forth what they believe to be minimum pay rates or you don't get to be in ALPA?
Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
What RJET is trying to do with the Star Alliance is a bad deal. I suspect they will not win, because of all of the carriers within Star that are part of ALPA or IFALPA and the consequences of such an action to the member carriers of Star.
I have to admit, I hadn't heard this. Are they trying to get on with Star? In a way, if that is it, thats a good thing. You've got to mega regionals running out there and you're (as in mainline carriers) funding them turning into real bonafide competition. Its an eye opener.
I'm sure Delta will never enter into some of the DCI contracts its in now, but I'm surprised they don't start up a whipsaw airline somewhere to shift flying and draw down RAH and SKW.
Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
We cannot do that if we are fighting each other as smaller independent pilot associations for a common position.
So I say, fix ALPA from within because the results will be more along the lines of what many pilots deem as their expectations.
I completely agree.
For me, there are 4 things for ALPA to do: 1) Airline Safety, 2) Pay, 3) Work Rules and 4) Job Protection. I think, in a Braveheart battlefield like bravado, I would like to see minimums laid out saying this is what we expect as a minimum for airlines and not necessarily in a way that is reminiscent of UAW vs GM but more like a DAL vs DALPA thing.
For the good of the public, for the good of the airlines who try to do things right for their customers, employees and shareholders, and for our pilots, we believe that at a minimum you should have this in your training programs, this for pay, this for QOL and this for scope. Heck, name it the Moak Rules for all I care.
I sure am opining aren't I? Probably making a mess here.
So I'll quiet down, but I think we need to be ready for whats over the horizon that you and I have talked about a lot on here and that is "Ladies and Gentleman, welcome aboard SkyTeam Aliiance brought to you by [
Aeroflot, or AeroMexico, or AirEuropa, AirFrance/KLM, Alitalia, China Southern, Delta Air Lines, Czech Airlines- where your Captain wants all of our FA's to come from, Kenya Airways, Korean Air, Tarom Air Transoprt, or Vietnam Airlines].