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I understand that, I just hope the powers that be would decide that way.
I agree that it'd be tremendous power but do you think you would have to draw a line in the sand at some point and say as ALPA National we're going to do everything we can to stop scope errosion and whipsaws. Could ALPA national ever exhort that kind of pressure on individual mainline MECs? Or even set forth what they believe to be minimum pay rates or you don't get to be in ALPA?
Guess who has though of some of these ideas? Guess who wants a min DCI contract? Yep you guessed it. These are not new ideas!
Also I do think that a ALPA President that had his head screwed on straight may not sign a PWA that is bad for the group. Question is what is bad for the group? SJS take backs that reduce regionals, or SJS that sells more seats to the regionals? I know the answer I deem to be correct, and for that reason, there are many things that needed to be reworked in the ALPA Constitution and By Laws.
I have to admit, I hadn't heard this. Are they trying to get on with Star? In a way, if that is it, thats a good thing. You've got to mega regionals running out there and you're (as in mainline carriers) funding them turning into real bonafide competition. Its an eye opener.
No it is not a good thing. Places like RJET can sign life agreements with Star, One World, and Skyteam that could very well circumnavigate every mainlines Section One scope previsions. That would be the end game. A carve out of 150 seats and below that these Mega Regionals would slowly take from the Flagship carriers of these alliances.
I'm sure Delta will never enter into some of the DCI contracts its in now, but I'm surprised they don't start up a whipsaw airline somewhere to shift flying and draw down RAH and SKW.
The reason they will not is easy, AF, KLM, and DAL pilots groups and their CBA's/PWA's though ALPA and IFALPA. With the cooperative agreements between these three companies and then with all the other airlines and their pilot groups among Sky there has been agreements penned that will prevent this sort of thing.
So I'll quiet down, but I think we need to be ready for whats over the horizon that you and I have talked about a lot on here and that is "Ladies and Gentleman, welcome aboard SkyTeam Aliiance brought to you by [Aeroflot, or AeroMexico, or AirEuropa, AirFrance/KLM, Alitalia, China Southern, Delta Air Lines, Czech Airlines- where your Captain wants all of our FA's to come from, Kenya Airways, Korean Air, Tarom Air Transoprt, or Vietnam Airlines].
Yes, we agree that once Foreign Ownership and Cabotage are done away with it will be very easy to make these alliances the airlines and everyone becomes a contract carrier. Even a bigger reason for a unified group and voice that controls the Lion's share of the flying sitting at the table.