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Old 09-17-2010 | 01:06 PM
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Sink r8
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
That's not the subject. Others have posted that fNWA guys had to have their total compensation increased to match DAL. Not true as stated previously. Others also stated that nobody came out of bankruptcy with a better contract and more unified than DAL. Not true either because our contracts were essentially equal and both groups were unified. To say otherwise is simply ignorant, yet it keeps being said.

I'm happy with my overall situation at the new DAL as are most of the guys I fly with. That has nothing to do with the previous factually incorrect postings.

Carl
OK, fine. The last paragraph is a good place to start. It's a far cry from stating "every other fNWA pilot a fNWA has flown with has taken a paycut" under the new contract. We can't bridge that gap, because there is no way the Capn can substantiate that... so let's not try.

The gist of this had to do with Alfa's assertion that Moak steered us well out of BK, and that he couldn't find an airline that handled itself as well. I don't think it was a dig at NW, because I was kind of thinking... we are NW, and NW is us. But maybe this offended your pride, and you answered "NW did just as well", and we went from there.

So let's step back a second... I think we can all stipulate both groups were unified, and I'll defy anyone to find the "more unified" group. Better yet, instead of defying them, I'll ignore anyone who thinks it's particularly relevant.

As to the question of which group was more effective pre-merger but post-BK, and which contract was better, I read both T/A's, and it looked to me like the NW group made much larger concessions in everything but the pension, for the benefit of the pension. So maybe you executed well on your goals, but maybe our goals were simply very different?

Sounds like you're saying that if we were both given a choice to pick our contract, you'd pick the NW contract. Tell you what: that's fine with me. You're senior, you pick the NW contract, and I'll take the DAL contract that's left over.

How's that?

Last edited by Sink r8; 09-17-2010 at 01:20 PM. Reason: spelling