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Whether this movement fails or succeeds one thing must be learned from it for another "uprising" not to occur. Change needs to happen. Even I strongly beleive that change at national must happen for its long term viability.

We may disagree on where we are in the lifecycle of ALPA, but we do not disagree with some of the finer points. The reality is that UAUA and DAL pilots are getting sick and tired of a lot and are contemplating a walk with with pocket books. I know that if this organization is as you say, they will realize that to survive they need to morph. The unionized labor there also better realize that with one or both pilots group leaving they will be without jobs. It is simply the same sort of reality that we faced a few years go. These people have been insulated to a greater degree than we have because they work for us.

All I have always said is there is value there, and I suspect that these people and this organization are politically savvy enough to read the cards correctly and will understand what is at stake. If they do not, the step you are advocating will occur out of a need greater than the risks involved.