Originally Posted by
TOGA LK
Nu,
Lots of reasons why we won't be one pilot group for some time. My reason is tied up with Moak writing a letter to the pilot group, after not hearing from him for two years, to only find out he wants a national ALPA pension and oayraise. My main grief with his Black Swan series is the MEC's complete ignorance in the fact that not all pilots are getting a 13% retirement benefit. Yes about five different retirement programs out there, but there are 180 fNWA pilots getting 7% DC and 2% 401k while newhires are getting 12% this year and 13% next year.
For reasons like this DAL is a job, no more special than the last one. Really hoping Lee gets the boot and DAL pilots get some meaningful representation by an organization with mainline interests at heart
At APA the union voted to change the policy to mirror ALPA in that the LECs vote for the MEC chairman, it was soundly defeated.
Time for regime change at a minimum and better yet an in-house union.
TOGA, as it has been mentioned before, all of that DC issue with the FNWA junior pilots should never have happened.
I talked to someone rather in the know, and I do mean "in the know", and that was not brought up to anyones attention until the deal was done. Problem was I don't think there was a junior junior pilot in the mix to see it from a junior pilots pov.
To unravel it at that point meant, or now means, a lot of other interests groups would like their major issues addressed and fixed. They'd (both on DAL and NWA side) argue til their blue in the face that what happened to them is worse than the NWA junior pilots.
You could argue back and forth but like I've heard others "want theirs" until you
convince everyone that the 3-4% DC for 180 pilots should occur without anything else occuring in the deal.
Maybe that could happen. Maybe we should try? I support any efforts to change it pre C2012.
To me, it would be unreal if that is not changed in C2012. Since many of you are on this site are FNWA JR pilots who are effected by this I'd be curious to hear what your LEC reps have said about it when it comes up to the next contract.
But lets be clear, it shouldn't have happened.
Power to us JR pilots! We're the backbone of the operati.... okay, maybe not, we're the "can" of the operation. Without us [to cover senior pilots sickations and miss commutes] this place would be a mess.
