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Old 10-01-2010 | 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadHead
I know this is a few pages back but,

I think he makes some noteworthy points about management's role in during contract negotiations. From what I've understood at DAL, back in the day this was how compensation packages were negotiated. Management would throw a lump of money at the pilot group and the leadership would decide how to divvy it up amongst the pilot group.

What I like about this is that management isn't telling is HOW to pay pilots. I've always thought that we should negotiate a lump sum of money without justification of pay scales. Basically, the union should decide what each specific seat in each aircraft category should pay, then calculate that total amount required to provide that compensation package.
The lump figure is what our union should be negotiating for. The more variables introduced complicates the process while becoming divisive to the pilot group.

Not sure if this is the method used or not, but either way we cannot continue to send crap down the river because long term it only hurts contract negotiations.

There is good and bad to this type of negotiation. Positive is you know the value of the contract up front, the negative is you can be killed by a thousand paper cuts.

It is IBB style where the total value is determined but we get killed on the costing of each item. I would be careful about what you wish for. The corporation love this style because the work takes place on the other side of the table and they can then just argue that the cost assigned to each item it not correct.