Originally Posted by
acl65pilot
You cannot compare a NWA/DAL SLI to a SLI with a domestic carrier like AS. Apples and Oranges.
A 2001 hire is a very senior FO over at AS.
It would not be the methodology used for our SLI, it could not be. Now a merger etc with HI would be similar as they fly ULH, LH and domestic short Haul.
I suspect that whatever happens if and when it happens it will be as fair as it can be. Career expectations will come in to ply. Our 757 being paid at a WB rate will help tremendously.
Heyas ACL,
20 years ago, I'd say you would be right.
Arbitrators these days are all about simplicity and defensibility. "Dissimilar carriers" and "career expectations" are way too vague for them to deal with. Bar is correct...career expectations were completely jettisoned (for both sides) in the DAL/NWA merger with the exception of the very top of both lists.
I'm NOT turning this into a NWA/DAL SLI debate. It is what it is, BUT we'd be really stupid if we didn't look at what worked and what didn't when applied to a new situation.
Every argument that the DAL side used against "premium widebody" will return to visit us all. Arbitrators LOVE recent precedent. It would go category ratio, because it is simple AND defensible with recent precedent....and those of us on the bottom %50 of the list would be fracked.
Otherwise you would need to RADICALLY alter ratios, which will be undefensible by the arbitrators OR have 25 year fences, which is essentially the NWA/REP merger plan, with all the ensuing happy results.
Nu