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Old 10-13-2010 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Superdad
I am not sticking for any vision. You have got to stop blaming ALPA for all that ails this pilot group, because it is just not accurate. ALPA national has little to no control over what goes on at the local level, they offer resources and guidance. Sometimes their guidance is wrong, but it is up to each pilot group to make that decision, ALPA does not do it for you.

Delta pilots voted for every single scope concession that has taken place, ALPA did not force any of it. Lee Moak did not make those decisions for you. One of the first things I learned when I was an ALPA rep for my regional, is that you can say no to ALPA and they must abide by your decision. The national officers are not running the show, your pilot group is.

I want to get rid of all the RJ's just like you, but ALPA cannot do it for us, we must impose our will on our negotiators to get what we want. And if they bring us back something that we don't like, then we vote NO!

It really is that simple.
While I'm not saying you're wrong, ALPA did the negotiating and then the sales job during the road shows to get folks to vote on the contract. If you factor in that most pilots at Delta vote yes because they either trust their union or can't be bothered enough to read/question things, then the logical conclusion is that ALPA knows that the membership will ratify whatever they are told to ratify.

If ALPA is representing both sides in the scope negotiations, then who gets screwed? Does the ALPA Pres get behind those that pay the dues or those that have the electoral votes to keep him in his very cushy lifestyle?