Originally Posted by
iahflyr
Were you at United in 2000?? I'm really curious. They got an industry leading raise (wasn't it 48%) and were making ridiculous amounts of money. What happened there? The company was forced to give them something they couldn't afford, and what happened?
I am not always pro union. I pay my dues and I support being a unified pilot group. But I hate it when renegade people make unreasonable demands. The fact is our quality of life is the best when the company is doing well. I want the new United to do well. We make damn good pay as major airline pilots. We don't need a 30% raise on top of that just cause. I'd rather our company pay what other companies pay for the exact same job, and let our company be competitive. When the new United does well, we will benefit.
I want a raise similar to what Delta/Northwest got. I want to be compensated well, but not out of line with our biggest competitors (Delta, American, US Air). Otherwise, this contract may last for maybe 2 years just like UAL 2000 did, and then we'll have to suffer the consequences... Those who fail to learn from the mistakes of the past are due to repeat those mistakes in the future.
iahflyr,
Excellent points! UAL pilots helped drive themselves into BK. Some will NEVER admit it because they are like children. They want it all, they want it now, and they want it because....well, just BECUZ ! ! !
Sadly, most UAL pilots have failed to think for themselves and have gone along with everything ALPA has told them.
Don't forget, C2000 was not a huge failure because of the pay rates. It was a huge failure because the pilots produced VERY LITTLE under the work rule language of that pathetic contract!
Yes, you are onto something! NEVER abandon your ideals. Never let a union or a company tell you how or what to think!! Good job!
JD