A specific target? Okay. How about the fact that not one rep has seen any of the completed sections of the contract, specifically R/I and scope. What is Jay Pierce hiding? Back in December 2009, we had an R/I section which included at least some chance for those of us who lost half our pensions to at least recoop part of what we lost. We are hearing rumors that entire section has now been scrapped. It has been reduced to nothing/ no improvements. The lawyer during the recent town hall said they couldn't show the reps the completed sections because it would open up a can of worms. In other words, they would waste valuable time rehashing completed sections. Seems to me you want this JCBA as close to perfect as possible. The time to ask for everything lost is now, not later. I just don't get the rational behind waiting for the reps to see all the completed sections. You either use the time now, or waste it later. I know the UAL pilots are also hurting as far as their pensions. It's time to bring back improvements to the pensions we have earned and ensure those junior pilot will have a pension to look forward to. Hearing the R/I section was scrapped will cause me to vote no. That doesn't mean I won't look at it. The company wants synergies? I want my damn pension restored. THE LOAN IS DUE! Also...BULLET POINTS = NO VOTE