Originally Posted by
Savecalpilots
A specific target? Okay. How about the fact that not one rep has seen any of the completed sections of the contract, specifically R/I and scope. What is Jay Pierce hiding? Back in December 2009, we had an R/I section which included at least some chance for those of us who lost half our pensions to at least recoop part of what we lost. We are hearing rumors that entire section has now been scrapped. It has been reduced to nothing/ no improvements. The lawyer during the recent town hall said they couldn't show the reps the completed sections because it would open up a can of worms. In other words, they would waste valuable time rehashing completed sections. Seems to me you want this JCBA as close to perfect as possible. The time to ask for everything lost is now, not later. I just don't get the rational behind waiting for the reps to see all the completed sections. You either use the time now, or waste it later. I know the UAL pilots are also hurting as far as their pensions. It's time to bring back improvements to the pensions we have earned and ensure those junior pilot will have a pension to look forward to. Hearing the R/I section was scrapped will cause me to vote no. That doesn't mean I won't look at it. The company wants synergies? I want my damn pension restored. THE LOAN IS DUE! Also...BULLET POINTS = NO VOTE
Leaving out all the information again.
First of all, the reps will see the contract in full contract language (just like we will) before it is voted on by the MECs. They can analyze it to death and reject it if they so choose.
Second, where on the conference call or any place has it been said that the R/I section was scrapped? You HEARD it was scrapped? Was this from the guy in the next stall in the restroom?? Another anonymous source.
The JNC is given its mandate by the MEC and by the RLA to negotiate with the company. They have their directions and instructions. The JNC and MECs have laid out what needs to happen. Every little word, sentence and punctuation mark cannot be negotiated by 20+ individuals every single time a proposal is put on the table. As with the pay issue concerns of the United people, one side could continually hold up negotiations. That's why we have a JOINT NC. They decide what to propose and agree to based on OUR needs.
The MEC and YOU will make a final determination if it is good enough when you see the language. Jay doesn't vote when the MEC decides to send out the TA or not.