Originally Posted by
Savecalpilots
A specific target? Okay. How about the fact that not one rep has seen any of the completed sections of the contract, specifically R/I and scope. What is Jay Pierce hiding? Back in December 2009, we had an R/I section which included at least some chance for those of us who lost half our pensions to at least recoop part of what we lost. We are hearing rumors that entire section has now been scrapped. It has been reduced to nothing/ no improvements. The lawyer during the recent town hall said they couldn't show the reps the completed sections because it would open up a can of worms. In other words, they would waste valuable time rehashing completed sections. Seems to me you want this JCBA as close to perfect as possible. The time to ask for everything lost is now, not later. I just don't get the rational behind waiting for the reps to see all the completed sections. You either use the time now, or waste it later. I know the UAL pilots are also hurting as far as their pensions. It's time to bring back improvements to the pensions we have earned and ensure those junior pilot will have a pension to look forward to. Hearing the R/I section was scrapped will cause me to vote no. That doesn't mean I won't look at it. The company wants synergies? I want my damn pension restored. THE LOAN IS DUE! Also...BULLET POINTS = NO VOTE
See, you have a specific target then (although let's not put the cart before the horse, let's see what the final product actually is). Vote no to provide direction to the renegotiated contract and back it up with a strike vote of yes.
As to what is Jay Pierce hiding? Like him or hate him right now he is hiding nothing. He knows what the expectations of the group are vis a vis scope so it is going to be really hard to hide behind any TA that doesn't strengthen scope. That's not some tidbit that can easily be slipped past us in a section that nobody looks at. I'm not a loyalist to Pierce, any of the reps, or even ALPA but I also don't believe in lynching anyone til I see a reason to get out the rope and start tying the knot. I'm not advocating blind faith in any of the above entities but you can't advocate blind hatred either. Show me the product.
It's make ready, take aim, and then fire. We can make ready. Hell we can take aim, but let's hold our fire until we have a reason to shoot and something to shoot at. Show me the product.