Originally Posted by EWRflyr

Actually did some research on this:

3-day and 4-day HI trips in CLE are higher times with turns and an IRO. Was told that the IRO positions on these trips go very senior because of what was mentioned: DHs on either end. As a result they are almost never in open time because of their productivity.

The 5-day HI trips are the overnights in OGG and HNL. These are the same ones I saw in CLE trip advertisements when I looked in CCS the other day. There are no 5-day trips with HI turns on them. They are the overnights in HI.

Information I got was that the 5-day stuff is always being advertised because of the low value and trip length. Right now just LAX to HNL/OGG exist and SNA flights to HNL/OGG are suspended until mid-December.