Originally Posted by
gettinbumped
Hold on there hoss.... I wouldn't get too righteous about "why can't you get your people going in the same direction". You might want to re-read your magenta line. Doesn't sound like the CAL MEC is exactly unified right now either.
Second, too late. Skywest just opened a 70 seat RJ Houston base. Oh, and UAL just replaced a bunch of 70 seaters in SEA. The shift has begun, and you guys are definitely on the losing end of the flow of 70 seaters. If you guys are smart over there, you'll want what we want. GET A NEW CONTRACT DONE. Get some good raises, improvements in QOL and SCOPE and do it soon.
I'm sick of the he said/she said. Every email, magenta line, and update that comes out like that hurts us ALL in the long run because it takes away from what should be our REAL focus, being unified. BOTH sides are guilty.
I agree with much of what you wrote. Not trying to be righteous though. I understand our union mess. I also understand that our MEC has full confidence in our negotiating committee. The pi$$ing contests between the LEC reps is just noise. I guarantee that everyone is probably within 2% of complete agreement on most issues. Its that 2% they differ on that has caused problems and the ridiculous clash of personalities (odd personalities, btw) has made it much more dramatic than need be. But it blows my mind that Ms Wendy would publicly trash the CAL mec for holding up the process when her own appointed members of the JNC seemed to think the economic proposal was ok. Kind of picking and choosing the facts, imho.
I think people are oversimplifying the problem here on this forum also. Its not just a matter of pay and fences, or what was concessionary and what isnt. We have no look into what the proposal is, no matter what secret experts here like to spout. There is much more to it and Im sure the room of negotiators and lawyers that have devoted their lives to this type of work know what they are doing. There is an obvious reason why the two sides arent in agreement. One side or the other will have a windfall until they split the baby in half. And that will happen. The problem is the public viewing of the baby being severed. Just do it.