Originally Posted by
Rocketiii
The CAL side does not want a new negotiated pay rate to unfairly skew a SLI. You keep talking about your concessionary giveback. You cant keep saying "Well, back in the day we were bada$$ and we had a great contract in 01 and that should be what our career expectations should be based on". It doesnt work that way. When the merger was announced or at least became effective defines the starting point for the integration. Continental was past the ammendable date and actively negotiating a contract in some of the most lucrative times in recent history for the industry. Should we say that we expected to get much more return and our 787 pilots would be paid for than 747 guys and they should be inserted at the top of the list? Of course not.
This is about SLI. Repeating over and over again about the CAL NC pushing for a common rate between the 747 and 777 and how that is some sort of personal assualt on you is ridiculous. UAL has always defended their 747 pay and equipment as the holy grail. That is fine. But call a spade a spade. Its about a perceived equity and no windfall to certain parts of the seniority list at specific airlines. If we were going to play that game, we could discuss the greater increase in wages that UAL will receive over the CAL guys with ANY new contract. It isnt helpful. If you dont like it, call your reps and direct your negotiators to quit going along with it.
Nice, huh?
Rocketiii,
I totally understand your (CAL pilots) concerns...they are valid...as are the UAL side...
The simple solution is to have a PAY SNAPSHOT before the merger just like the seniority snapshot for SLI. My understanding from the UAL MEC update yesterday is that they HAVE proposed that the JCBA (including new payrates) should NOT be factored into the SLI process. The CAL MEC update posted above says pretty much the same thing!! Huh?!?! The MEC's say they are fighting for the same thing: that the JCBA be excluded from the SLI! Yay! Quit arguing in public and do it then!
The SLI should look at payrates in effect before the merger, plain and simple. The JCBA should try to get the best possible payrates on every seat. Personally, I think arguing FOR banding only certain types while separating others does not make any sense overall. Either band everything or nothing...at least that should be the goal...