Originally Posted by
Skyflyin
Alright, here is an idea. Lets agree to disagree and sign an MOU that we will keep the operations separate until everyone on the list retires. We (CAL Pilots) sure didn't want this merger and I'm sure the majority of UAL pilots don't want it either. Lets agree to separate operations and separate negotiations and go from there.
NOWHERE DOES IT SAY THAT WE HAVE TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT, OR THAT WE ARE "REQUIRED" TO MERGE THE SENIORITY LIST.
This is management's deal, not ours. They wanted/need it, not us. If they wanted our permission they should of asked us for it first. They did not. Our good VP of Flight Ops pretty much said they didn't really need to combine the operations to meet their goals, so lets not do it.
Lets be friendly neighbors, just not move in together. It sure would make things a lot easier.
What do you think?
I think you might want to reconsider the "Us" vs. "Them".
Your definition of "CAL" is shaped by the date you came aboard.
CAL and UAL as we know them today are products of multiple mergers. Should we have separate contracts and representation for the former Pan Am, PEX, Air Mike, and hosts of sub groups that exist? I don't think so.
The best answer will be us + them =
US. There is strength in numbers IF we are United as one group.
When we have to work so hard to see eye to eye on pay banding, what makes you think we could operate side by side with complex scope style clauses. We would allow management to totally skip step one in the divide and conquer game plan. It would be very bad for both groups. A race to the bottom like the feeders that fly in our colors.
Lets work together on getting some great scope, work rules, and pay rates that we can all enjoy.
Besides after all the shuffling around is done, there just might be another merger down the road.
All the best,
SP