Originally Posted by
buddies8
Hey pal. I posted here how this merger was going to happen two weeks ago. CAL has found a way around CAL scope. Exactly as it is unfolding. CAL management is going to transfer flying to UAL and UAL is going to fly the 70 seater's on the routes.
It amazes me how dumb pilots are when they think they have management in a corner. You folks better start thinking out of the box, management does.
Blacklist, maybe you should wonder on what list some of those CAL pilots are on. Dont forget the true story and history of CAL. Union brotherhood is solid as long as it does not effect the other, once it does forget solidarity.
ALPA because it was loosing dues allowed CAL back into ALPA. Why dont you ask yourself, why it was removed from ALPA. Next time you want to talk about blacklist, check CAL's.
Want to talk about how unionized airline, ALPA represented TWA, EAL, PAN AM, etc; you really want to go down that road. I personally do not like why you are furloughed, but that is the reality of the airline industry.
IAH and EWR are going to see a larger amount of flying done by 70+ seater's. The new UAL will be run like US Airways. One holding company, one board, two certificates and CAL side will domestically be reduced via the retirement of the 737. Flying transfered to UAL side and passed on to the feeder of 70 seat aircraft. UAL board and stockholders very happy because this will increase the return on there investment and increase the stock price.
It has nothing to do with thinking outside the box. The RLA SEVERELY restricts labors' ability to act as a check and balance against management. To add to the problem is the court system is VERY anti labor. So where is the relief valve? The problem is there currently isn't one. The word hemorrhage comes to mind. If management is able to knowingly trample existing contracts, what are CAL pilots to do? Everyone is saying the CAL/UAL pilots need to deal directly with management. How will that occur if there are no available vehicles to stop what management is doing? The new UAL management as well as Skywest management are both using scorched earth policies. Why? Because historically, they have been able to. Who or what is going to stop them? CAL pilots filed an emergency order to stop what is happening. Will the judge determine that it is in fact an emergency in a Texas court system? My guess is no, and the attack on the contract will continue for some time.
Instead of telling CAL pilots to "take it up with management", how about understanding the forces at work here and show some empathy to the CAL guys that worked hard to keep scope just to have it illegally circumvented. Among all of us pilots, there will be no winners in this.