Originally Posted by Hayduke

Don't forget ORD-SLC, ORD-MIA, and doesn't Shuttle even do ORD-LGA?



I agree with everything you say with the exception of the bolded parts. The jumpseat access issues were (and still are) *extremely* widespread--I don't know of any commuters who haven't been bumped or at least been almost bumped out of a jumpseat by a mainline pilot. For me, it's two out of the maybe 10 mainline folks who consistently try to intimidate their way onto the jump. The other guys are some of the nicest, most reasonable pilots I've met. The reason you're hearing about this is because of the small majority of UAL commuters who aren't acting ethically and the company's refusal to implement a solution that can fix the problem (i.e. software changes).

I'm sorry that you're hearing about it in a threatening manner--that's not cool at all. I'm hoping that most of our pilots are courteous and helpful. Please try not to judge our pilot group based on a few bad apples.

Also, if CAL pilots want to start a jumpseat war, they have every right to. I think it's extremely misguided, though--lacking the ability to actually enforce their contract, they would just be taking it out on a powerless group in an action that really wouldn't do anything. Skywest not being ALPA has nothing to do with this, either--being ALPA would not give us the power to reject the flying. It's not struck work.