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Old 11-08-2010 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Brocc15
This is really sad: all of the animosity towards each other when everyone wants the same outcome. What about Unity in the pilot group? Regional, Mainline, everyone wants the same thing. So why don't we all come up with a way to fix it that doesn't involve screwing each other over? Screwing over a Skywest pilot trying to get to work is not going to fix anything. And screwing over a CAL pilot because of denying a Skywest pilot is not going to do anything. The CAL pilot is just trying to fight for his or her rights and the Skywest pilot is just trying to fly the job that they were contracted to fly. I understand the jumpseat denial concept, I just think it will be very ineffective and rather just hurt the person trying to jumpseat over creating a ripple effect. I can tell you this: I travel all the time and I almost NEVER use the jumpseat. So even if you were able to have this go system wide the pilots are probably non-reving anyway and you will never know they are on your flight. The right way to go about this would be to get your unions involved. Remember the flight that a regional crew was going to operate from *i think* Ewr to IAH? They had no idea it was against CALs scope, but the union stepped in and the crew found out they could not operate the flight and did not. You need to get the Union to step in and use the right venues to ALLOW the Skywest pilots to deny the work without fearing consequences. Or stop the work before it gets to Skywest. This means you need to negotiate this. Unfortunately it may be awhile before you can actually get something done about it, but if you all work hard to negotiate the right scope, it can be done eventually, and with tact and respect for your fellow pilots, regional or mainline.

By the way in case anyone is wondering I do not work for any of the 3 airlines involved here and never have, but this is an issue that us as pilots care about across the board.
Well, Skywest has chosen to remain non-union, so your solution won't work in this case. The JCBA discussions of Scope are ongoing, and ALPA's position is to move ALL regional flying in-house. Time will tell how successful that effort is.

I'm surprised the new UAL management made this move. Talk about stirring up the hornets nest! This has just strengthened the resolve of ALL the new UAL pilots to at the very least eliminate the 70 seat flying from our regional feed. It has served as a unifying entity for both pilot groups... I can't imagine that was managements intent.
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