Originally Posted by
SoCalGuy
Just so we're ALL clear on what your saying, and there's no guessing......
If your suggesting that the person in question is 'commuting' on a $$ purchased pass (ZED Fare, ID90, Ect....), I see your point and there's 'no-say' from the PIC on those accords.
If your alluding to the fact that they are 'offline' & 'getting' a seat in the back (and not physically on the J/S) merely b/c your carrier has a standing agreement AKA "Jumpseat/Reciprocal Agreement" and there happens to be seats in the back.....your still "J/S'ing". If he/she so wishes, the Captain can see who is listed as a "J/S'er" (and I know for a FACT at several carriers can/able to display this information via their Stby Pax listing), even if they are given a seat by the issuing gate agents.
I am not out to play "J/S Wars", nor do I think that's what needs to be done under the "Ready/Fire/Aim" method at this present time....BUT, if CAL's MEC and ALPA/outside Legal Council are able to clearly cite/show how this topic is in direct violation to their current/enforceable CBA....it's going to be taken to the next step....and 'one' of those options was mentioned earlier in this thread via the Union writings from yesterday.
For those who keep pointing out that it's "not the SkyWest guys fault", that's 'gray' at best. The phrase "Don't hate the player, hate the game" comes to mind. If this move by Mgt is proven to be an out-right/clear violation that is being taken on a valid/standing CBA.....I would tend to believe that there is going to be a lot of 'blurred' vision as to where the game begins, and the players start.....thus where the term VERY VERY Messy was born.
I can tell you this, it's not an issue that will be slid to the back burner. Time will tell.
You are correct, that is what I meant, I was referring to listing as a non rev. I never list Jumpseat unless it looks like I won't get a seat in the back and I don't think I should take the non rev risk. I am referring to actually being a standard non rev out of uniform, wearing jeans and a t-shirt and never even listing jumpseat therefore never having to "request the jumpseat" . On my airline this is a free benefit we have, so I don't have to actually purchase the ticket, but I have been on a Continental flight (I'm a travel companion or whatever its called) and purchased the $12 ticket rather than jumpseat. I don't always do that on Continental, there were just certain circumstances that made that the best option that day. Anyway that is all beside the point of my post, there are other means for people to get to work, like driving, living in base, other airlines, etc. I just don't think denying jumpseats will create an effect that will be efficient in getting what you want, and in the mean time really screw over other pilots.