Originally Posted by
JoeMerchant
Howdy bumped,
Again, I looking for the specific language. The CAL pilots are making some threats without backing it up with specifics. That isn't sitting well with me.
Does everyone realize that CAL has been doing this thru "codeshare" long before this IAH issue came up. I pulled up two examples on the CAL website.
Example 1: FAT to IAH. Using codeshare, the first leg could be on a Mesa CRJ900 (USAirways Express)
Example 2: MFR to IAH. Using codeshare, the first leg is on a United Express 700 (Skywest)
They have been doing this for a long time. Is it the cities of IAH, CLE, and EWR that make the difference?
CAL has been selling tickets on CRJ 700s and 900s for quite some time now....
Joe....
All good points, and you are correct, those are "Codeshares". Just so we are both up to speed, those Codeshares in which you are sighting,
some come by way of the "Star Alliance" in which CAL became a part of following their departure from the "Sky Team" in Oct 2009.
Well prior to the Merger back in 2008, CAL was granted governmental "anti-trust immunity" by way of an
enhanced Codeshare with UAL (can ONLY speak for the CAL side, but our Union DID scrutinized thourghly the agreement) as it's partner in the agreement. If you have been on APC for any length of time, you should be familiar that this "enhanced" code share did have a "shelf-life" that was due to expire come the end of 2010. With that date looming, then came many 'road blocks' (via CAL's SCOPE) for long term future plans involving such an agreement after which it expired.
To cite a
'few' Codeshared flights that were permissible under CAL's current CBA as a product of the former Enhanced Codeshare with UAL, or some that have come about as a by-product with USAirways via the "Star Alliance", is much different than "UAL's Jeff" opening up a 70 Seat RJ base in one of CAL's biggest hubs/bases. To say they "already" do it (and you obviously NOT having CAL's CBA as your expressed earlier), nor 'possibly' understanding the prior landscape & the legalese that were involved under those few/select segments that you cite that 'could' have been tied to "Star", or the Enhanced Codeshare.....Your theroy paints a broad stroke in which you may not be able to 'generalize' as being a uniformed reason over the entire matter.
We have all read our contracts (I would hope), and can see how at times there are things/sections that are "up for interpretation" depending on 'whos' reading it. CAL ALPA is presently going through the proper channels to have it's current Section 1 in their CBA reviewed closely (along with the company's explanation) with the individuals who are
qualified to decipher if there is any violation of the subject. I can appreciate your 'zest' to want to analysis CAL's Section 1 to make your 'own ruling' (which holds about as much water as a paper bag).....but just b/c your operator puts you up at a "Holiday Inn Express", does NOT make you a seasoned/qualified Labor Contract Attorney. I for one will sit back and wait to see the outcome on this as reasoned by individuals who are a heck of a lot more qualified to call a spade a spade on the issue of 70 seaters out of IAH.