I know that there is the potential for that crap, I've seen it. Someone that is there just to go through the motions would say that. Other people take as much as they are offering and then take it uppn themselves to get more over and above, these people are the ones with the self respect and aren't just in it for the letters they can put after their name.

I went to ATP with 180 hours and an instrument rating and have logged another 2200 or so since I left there. 1400 has been dual given, 32 checkrides and only 1 failure, and it wasn't even one of the 6 that went to the FSDO. I know others like me, and I know they would like this category that you are putting us in no more than I do.