Originally Posted by
AVIVIII
I know that there is the potential for that crap, I've seen it. Someone that is there just to go through the motions would say that. Other people take as much as they are offering and then take it uppn themselves to get more over and above, these people are the ones with the self respect and aren't just in it for the letters they can put after their name.
I went to ATP with 180 hours and an instrument rating and have logged another 2200 or so since I left there. 1400 has been dual given, 32 checkrides and only 1 failure, and it wasn't even one of the 6 that went to the FSDO. I know others like me, and I know they would like this category that you are putting us in no more than I do.
Your experience gained removes you from the category. ATP is just one of those places..... poor mgmt (not at making money, but in regards to customer service), wam bam thankya mam, go and fail because you can just try again.... type places. I was trained 61 and gained a lot of experience before I went there. I had a 1000 hours when I signed up for the 2 week CFI program. I was amazed at the mentality of the MGMT and the low time instructors. One of my instructors there was very very smart and was a good stick, but had failed two checkrides because of the rush to take the checkrides unprepared. Four of us in my CFI class were normal 61 types and none had failed a ride, while 3/5 of the ATP kids had failed atleast once. The four 61 guys, myself included, managed to pass each CFI ride, while about a third of the ATP kids were not so lucky.
I have only been exposed to the JAX location, I hear some are better. Moral of the story, I am not going to prejudge anyone who went to ATP. But if they show signs of being a ****ty pilot...I will know who to blame.