Originally Posted by
tailwheel48
So, if the top UAL guys get there way and have a carve out for the 747, is there any way this can not be construed as a windfall for them? I thought ALPA merger policy precluded any 'windfalls' for any segment of the list?
The following are two excerpts from the DAL/NW ISSL decision from the arbitration panel:
the parties to this dispute are deeply divided, as is apparent from their respective proposals: Each does little more than stack the deck for their own constituencies in ways that are neither fair nor equitable . . .
. . . we have rejected the notion (proposed, from time-to-time by both parties) of numerous categories, each seeking to define and segregate groups of aircraft according to various operating characteristics. We have chosen, instead, to recognize the fleets as divided simply into wide-body and narrow-body groupings, two for Captains, two for FOs. For purposes of counting aircraft and staffing assumptions, thus creating ratios in each category, we have selected a “snapshot” date of July 1, 2008.
here is the end result of how they merged the list:
1. All pilots on long-term sick leave (12 months or longer) were removed from the pre-merger lists.
2. The 274 oldest Northwest pilots were removed from the pre-merger list.
3. The first 3045 positions on the ISSL were filled with the first 1961 Delta pilots and 1084 Northwest pilots on the pre-merger lists in a ratio of 1961:1084 beginning with a Delta pilot.
4. The next 2433 positions on the ISSL were filled with the next 1313 Delta pilots and 1120 Northwest pilots on the pre-merger lists in a ratio of 1313:1120 beginning with a Delta pilot.
5. The next 3932 positions on the ISSL were filled with the next 2580 Delta pilots and 1352 Northwest pilots on the pre-merger lists in a ratio of 2580:1352 beginning with a Delta pilot.
6. The ISSL was completed with Delta and Northwest pilots remaining on the pre-merger lists in a ratio of 1314:957 Delta to Northwest pilots beginning with a Delta pilot until both pre-merger lists are exhausted subject to paragraph 7, below.
7. All pilots with dates of hire after April 14, 2008, were placed at the bottom of the ISSL in order of date of hire.
8. The Northwest pilots pulled in paragraph 2. were inserted directly above the next junior Northwest pilot.
9. The pilots on long-term sick leave pulled in paragraph 1. were inserted directly above the next junior pilot on his/her respective pre-merger list.
It should be noted that no where is there mention of which plane the respective pilots were flying, and the only reason the oldest 274 NW pilots were "pulled and plugged" was because of their age and the fact that DAL had retired a large number of senior pilots prior to the merger. You are making enormous assumptions based on fear with no basis in reality and creating discord in the process.
The battle here is UNITY and SCOPE.
Try to do some research on how mergers work before you start assuming the worst. The MECs will posture all they want but the SLI arbitrators will not be fooled and if you want my guess no one will be perfectly happy but then no one will get a "windfall".