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Old 11-16-2010 | 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by tailwheel48
According to December staffing, there are 190 captains on the B777 at CAL. The last system bid had 182 positions on the B777 and a further 41 captains have been awarded the B787 in anticipation of the first deliveries.

I don't know whether the UAL figures you quote are remotely accurate.

And remember, the B767 pays the same as the B777 at CAL and there are a couple hundred of them.

Also staffing at CAL is very lean when compared to UAL and if we were staffed according to the same formula as them, we probably would have 10 - 15 % more pilots in every category. Conversely, if UAL were staffed like CAL, they'd probably have 15 - 20% less pilots in each category!

Throw in career expectations, longevity, and the kitchen sink, and you have an interesting mix.

So, the short answer to your question is - I have no clue! Which is why - hopefully - a wise, just AND impartial panel, will have to figure it all out!

This is what arbitrators in the past have said

1) airline A you have X number of planes with 2 aisles (widebodies) and you have Y number of planes with 1 aisle (narrowbodies)

2) airline B you have X number of planes with 2 aisles (widebodies) and you have Y number of planes with 1 aisle (narrowbodies)

This establishes a ratio for the planes ,then they move on to next step the ratio of pilot positions involving career expectations, thats where it gets messy.

An airlines orders have largely been ignored other than aircraft coming in the next few months, I will be surprised if the 787 orders from either airline will be recognized in the ruling with all the Boeing issues.
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