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Originally Posted by dosbo
By NIRMALA GEORGE
The Associated Press
updated 1 hour 31 minutes ago 2010-11-17T11:17:33

NEW DELHI — The pilot of an Air India flight that crashed in May, killing 158 passengers, slept through more than half the flight and woke up disoriented when it was time to land the aircraft, an investigative panel concluded, according to media reports Wednesday.
The Court of Inquiry appointed by the Indian government to probe the May 22 crash concluded that flight commander Zlatko Glusica was disoriented and his reactions were slow while bringing the aircraft in for a landing at Mangalore airport, Hindustan Times newspaper reported.
A government official, speaking on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter, confirmed that the newspaper report was accurate, but said the report would be made public only after it was presented to the Indian Parliament.
The Air India Express flight from Dubai to Mangalore in southern India overshot a hilltop runway, crashed and plunged over a cliff, killing 158 people instantly. Eight people survived the crash.
The panel examined information contained in the digital flight data recorder and the cockpit voice recorder of the aircraft, which were found at the crash site.
The panel said that Glusica reacted late and did not follow many standard operating procedures during the landing.
Glusica was suffering from "sleep inertia" after his nap and was "disoriented" when the plane began its descent at Mangalore airport.
The data recorders caught the sound of heavy nasal snoring and breathing, Hindustan Times said.

The co-pilot, H.S. Ahluwalia, is heard repeatedly warning Glusica to abort the landing and try the procedure again. The last words captured by the recorders as the plane crashed were those of one of the pilots saying, "Oh my God."
Glusica, a native of Serbia, had more than 10,200 hours of flying experience, while Ahluwalia had clocked in 3,650 hours.
There was no immediate comment on the report from the airline.
India's Civil Aviation Minister Praful Patel told reporters that his ministry had received the report Tuesday and the government would study it before taking any action.
The Mangalore crash was the deadliest in India since the November 1996 mid-air collision between a Saudi airliner and a Kazakh cargo plane near New Delhi that killed 349 people.
The report will add to growing concern worldwide about the dangers posed by exhausted pilots working taxing schedules. Pilot unions are fighting efforts by budget-strapped airlines to get them to work longer hours.
Studies show exhaustion can impair a pilot's judgment in much the same way alcohol does. It's not uncommon for overtired pilots to focus on a conversation or a single chore and miss other things going on around them, including critical flight information. In a few cases, they've just fallen asleep.
In June 2008, an Air India aircraft headed to Mumbai flew past its destination with both its fatigued pilots fast asleep in the cockpit. When the pilots were finally woken up by anxious Mumbai air traffic controllers, the plane, with about 100 passengers on board, was about 200 miles (320 kilometers) away.
Air traffic controllers in Mumbai finally used a special buzzer to awaken the pilots who then turned the aircraft around and made a safe landing.
In 2008 again, two go! airlines pilots in the United States were asleep for at least 18 minutes during a midmorning flight from Honolulu to Hilo, Hawaii, as their plane continued to cruise past its destination and out to sea. Air traffic controllers were finally able to raise the pilots, who turned around the plane with its 40 passengers and landed it safely. The airline is a Mesa Airlines subsidiary

Increasing allowed flight time will be a great help. I wonder if they factored these incedents into the scientific data?
My guess is they will blame this on the fact he had been sleeping (groggy) and not the fact that he actually needed rest and was extremely fatigued.

Originally posted by ACL65
If you want to use the LIT example, it was the PIC that was fatigued and a management pilot out of ORD. Extreme case.
They are mostly extreme cases when accidents occur. 10 hour flight day-15 hour duty day will ensure more, not less of an opportunity for these extreme accidents.

Originally posted by ACL65
I am not going to get all worked up about a rumor on a max duty day when the comment period is still open.
What rumor? It is in black and white in the FT/DT NPRM. ALPA proposed this 13+2 duty day with 9 flight hours, till 4 in the morning, with their Sept., 2009 proposal. Under their proposal, pilots could fly a 9 hour flight day, 13 hour duty day, extendable to 15, by the captain and company only. This can happen as late as 0359. That is also in print. ALPA decided to leave out the European requirements placed on the PIC for extending the day, which imo, would have made the extensions more onerous.

Are you worked up yet now that the comment period is closed and you now know it is not a rumor?
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