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Old 11-19-2010 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by SilverandSore
You are a fool of you think Dual Qual is a good idea. The exact same argument applies to Captains flying the right seat and getting paid the FO rate. We should allow that too. It allows the company big savings, right? They get to have fewer pilots and can be more efficient, you get an increased QOL because you have more options! Tell me how that is different?

Guys, Dual Qual is increased work for you (which you will be proficient on) for less pay. I know Delta does it with the 757 and 767, but guess what!? They're paid at the 767 rates. Dual Qual allows the company to pay you 50 seat rates for Vacation, Sick Time, Cancellations, etc. Why on Earth would you give up a negotiated pay structure that, oh by the way, airlines with different sized aircraft use, for the promise of more flexibility? Did UPS base their pay structure for the fleet based on the smallest aircraft? No.

Do you also think that Crew Pay will be able to track this? They can't do it properly in the current environment but you're willing to give that up on the promise of a better life? I'm also curious about the failure rates at airlines with Dual Qual. I know Skywest has a higher failure rate, and I'm not saying Dual Qual is the reason why, but is it a factor? Again, I'm not saying we can't do it, but why would you give in to an increase in work and responsibility for less pay? QoL is not the answer as that is a factor that the company can control thru a myriad of other factors. If you want Dual Qual, demand higher than current 700 rates for the increased responsibility. Anything less and you're arguing for pay cuts. If that's the case, I'd like to see the proposal for Captains flying as FOs too, I want the total option to have a better quality of schedule and that will really let me make life great.
You're assuming that we're going to the Skywest Dual Qual "Brad Holt Override" system. That system will be absolutely unacceptable over here as its a pay cut. A Dual Qual agreement can be made to benefit the pilot group and management.

First, instead of an "override", we must have a "blended payrate" based on ratio of aircraft and JCBA 145/200 pay and JCBA 700/900 pay. The company will have considerable cost savings from Dual Qual. Part of that cost saving must be returned to the pilot group by having a blended payrate that at the very least, is at current 700/900 pay.
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