Originally Posted by
Andy
CAL has 147 furloughees. UAL has 1437. In accordance with precedent, all furloughees should be merged at the bottom of the list.
I fully expect UALMEC to allow the 147 CAL furloughees to be merged into the active pilot list, in violation of ALPA M&A procedures. Why? Because that's UALMEC's standard way of doing business.
And based on my previous exchanges with CAL pilots on flightinfo, many CAL pilots are more than happy with the idea of having the bottom 1437 of the combined list being comprised solely of UAL furloughees.
You're preaching to the choir on 70 seaters. UALMEC will not do anything to limit 70 seaters, as it does not benefit the top ~500. If there was a 25 cent/hr increase in pay for the senior widebody pilots, they would agree to dump all narrowbodies and have that flying outsourced. Based on previous behavior which has been extremely consistent, UAL furloughees are worth less than two bits to the senior UAL pilots.
The 747 carve out is total BS. UAL pays the same for 747 and 777 pilots, but it's of no surprise to me that they'd be pushing for a carve out. Who benefits from the carve out? The top ~500 UAL pilots. And they'll be more than happy to sell out the entire rest of the UAL seniority list for that carve out.
Andy,
There is no such thing as precedent regarding seniority list arbitrations. Arbitrators are free to fashion a list in a manner they deem fair and equitable, without any obligation to conform to any prior decision.
As for your widebody rant: at least half of the voting members of the UAL-MEC are nowhere close to Widebody Captain seniority. In fact, they couldn't even have been awarded an A-320 Captain position during the recently published vacancy award. Only a few MEC members have seniority to hold the left seat of the 777 or 747. So this notion that the senior pilots drive the train is crap. And I believe both MECs have scope very high on the priority list.
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