Originally Posted by
buddies8
mgt position is going to be, what is it worth to the pilot group and what are the pilots and every other work group willing to give up to have that size of aircraft flown, maintained, serviced by mainline personnel?
If you are not up for a 20% pay cut, 15% increase in work rules, reduction in duty/trip rigs, then you are just spinning your wheels and losing out on negotiating more important issues, such as QOL, pay, retirement enhancements (some type) schedule protection, and the list just keeps going on. But keep after the 70 seat market, all you are doing is delaying the conclusion of negotiations which is okay with management because they keep on as is.
Without scope, this job is worth nothing for most of each list. In the long run, scope means a job will exist. No scope - no job. Without that, it doesn't really matter how much the "imaginary" job pays. BTW, if you haven't looked from the cheap seats, we've already given as much as can be given on the UAL side of things. 95 hours, min rest, min days off, blah, blah, blah. If we don't hold the line now on this, finally, then all hope will most definitely be lost for this being a career for any of us.
Scott