Originally Posted by
strfyr51
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the Thought process was to AVIOD more losses for the membership
wasn't 30+% enough? Pretty easy after the fact to make all kinds of judgements after all of these years, But Tell you what? The Guy who engineered all of that? is STILL the Chairman of the Board. And his "Able" Lieutenant is STILL the COO, and Jeff is in the Middle. SO WHO are you going to talk to, to change their mind? Tilton and Jeff have already PUT the 70 seaters in CAL Hubs under the "UAL" banner. Is this NOT UAL??
Is it NOT Legal?? If it were you'd have already taken UAL to Court.
so OBVIOUSLY they have some traction here. Might be you need to show more of a United Front and JCBA/SLI Progress on your OWN before they take YOU (ALPA) seriously. Y'Think?? told you before Tilton Nor Smisek are in Awe Nor are they afraid of ALPA, AT ALL!
Well, we got absolutely NOTHING for the Special LOA that Whiteford signed regarding the E170. The company came to Whiteford and said "we made a mistake by not having the language include airplanes that weigh as much as the E170. Not allowing the E170 into the mix will severely hamper Skywest, Republic, etc's ability to negotiate the best rate for the 70 seaters because they can't pit one manufacturer against another."
So Whiteford said "Here ya go" and signed off on the E170 while getting NOTHING in return. Criminal.
As far as going forward. You are preaching to the choir. I am very relieved that we are apparently over the bickering regarding the JCBA and back to a more United front. As far as THEM taking US seriously, I'm pretty confident that they will be taking us seriously when we hold up the Single Operating Certificate by not accepting a crappy contract.
However, there are legal channels that need to be followed. We tried to put the screws to the company, got sued, and lost. THIS time, however, time is on our side, as the COMPANY announced that they want a S.O.C by the end of next year. If they want that, they need a single list. If they want THAT, they need a contract in place in time to finish the several month inevitable arbitration of the list. The fact that neither side has filed for mediation tells me that so far the company realizes they need to (finally) play ball.