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Old 12-03-2010, 03:09 AM
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Default Upgrades at AAWW

As I said, I wasn't going to hijack the hiring thread as those that are looking for a job need to clearly stay focused.

Quote from Whaledriver: Hey Polarfr8,
The main thrust of the email was to let the Altas guys know what was coming, so they could bid accordingly. Like the LAX base closing. A need to know for the LAX based guys to reconsider their bids. I don't know that Polar guys needed to know any of this, for the time being. I don't think the company was being evil. It came from the Atlas VP of Crew Resources, as a heads up.


Whale,

Excellent post. This, I can agree with as I would want to know if my base was planning a shutdown as well. No problems with that one, that's for sure, as I've seen more than one furlough and airlines going out of business by no fault of my own.

As per the employee exchange and when asked directly, the company said we're still merging. We all know they can't throw ten, or how many other aircraft they're thinking of, on the line at one time. That's my reason for concern.

Beagle Lover: When Atlas furloughed we (AAWW) weren't A.) looking at expansion; B.) not close by any means to a SCBA; C.) we had furloughs and losses in previous years to include hiring and firing then recalling and didn't complain once about it.

As far as your comments -- well, I remember your position on a few other issues that have been hashed out on this web board and quite frankly, your opinion is not taken very strongly as you have always shot from the hip without facts or reasoning and seem to always stay on that what I get for me mentality. This is clearly represented with you going back to old - for the sake of keeping this professional - shall we say, debates about water under the bridge.

These recently announced upgrades are clearly for the future and as already stated won't happen with ten, or however many airframes are coming, overnight.

I'm not here to turn this into a pi$$ing match just trying to understand the bids and why they need to get fifty on the books right away. Hell, we all know how training events are set up. Here's one solution -- in fact I'm going to see what 1224 thinks about it. Steal my idea if you like. There should be rebids everytime they phase in a new airframe. There should be delivery dates and/or dates for these additional contracts of flying. It worked at the majors when I was there with THOUSANDS of training events so why can it not work here with the little seniority list that we have? Again, I'm looking at solutions to a problem, not trying to create one.

For the record I'm not looking at an upgrade so it's not about me getting into the left seat.

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