Originally Posted by
FedElta
Hey Satch,
Here's some background for ya': I spent 30 years at a purple cargo outfit with a unique payscale. We had Cap, fo/ so rates based on narrow body, and widebody rates going out to 15 years. later, we added A380 rates for that a/c alone.
When the a380 order was cancelled and the 777 substituted, the pilots/union lost a grievance for the 777 to pay 380 rates.....I'm sure the union boys will try to recover boosts to the 777 rate when the company comes sniffing for ULR rules.
Negotiated bumps are included for night/ intl/ etc. I felt this system was a good compromise between UPS ( cap or fo only ) and industry norm of a/c & seat specific.
It reduces the need to chase seats/ bases for a payraise, ie: the last years of my career, I stayed on the A300 instead of going to the MD11. Same pay, much better qol...for me.
The company wins with this system as it greatly reduces training events ,and keeps more guys actually available for line flying.
Here's the trick : use the reduction in training costs (big) and bump top tier pay for Carl, without a paycut for other groups....you could probably come close to cost-neutral for the company and give everyone an acceptable payrate increase, and better qol.
Maybe something like this: Super premium widebody(ha),744 &330,,,widebody,767.....narrow body, 757,MD90/88, A320/319, DC9.
Big bumps for night/ intl, etc.
I'm not advocating this, so save the arrows/ mortars, etc.......you asked how this might be implemented.
Regards
Thanks, Fedelta. Very interesting. I certainly would like to see more open discussions involving the streamling of payrates across fleets across the industry. I would guess many senior widebody pilots would love an opportunity to fly a 737 domestically, during the day, to include out and backs as long as they weren't significantly pay penalized. There's something to be said about crossing
only 2 time zones and spending a long overnight in San Diego or NYC!