Originally Posted by LeeFXDWG

No one has the horsepower to get it changed. Wish it wasn't the case.

The question comes down to how bad the company wants/needs the single certificate operation. If they can continue to "speed" on the CAL scope or implement more JV's, their "tolerance horizon" is long IMO. However, if they want/need the combined operation for their benefit in the short term, they'll play ball.

I'm aware of the APA situation. UCAL pilots better dig in for a long time. My guess is 2 years minimum before a release. Again, minimum.

Now we also have to throw in the devil's advocate question, "and at what cost." How much damage is done to the pilots if the company can continue to flow UEX into the CAL op, signs more JV's, etc.

Is there a time to capitulate on some issues to a certain degree to take back an acceptable position regarding scope and any other gains? Have them in hand so to speak. Then work towards the next gain hoping the economy or other factors provide some leverage? This is a rhetorical question of course.

I would like to have all scope back. Or, at least 50 seat and no JV's. That is the real means to improve your career expectations, advancement, security, and compensation.

Is that worth a decrease in any potential raise. To me yes, to others, no.

As much as we all might wish it was different, the concessions given up regarding scope and all other issues weren't given up over night, even in BK for UA. As a result, I doubt they can be recaptured in one step.

Frats,
Lee