There was some of that, but the planes weren't taken by the XJ pilots. They were taken in a deal between 9E management and NWA as a means to try to force 9E pilots to cave on a mediocre deal. And IBPilot's right. I know my first response when they took those planes was "Thank god. Maybe they'll stop trying to JM and extend me now." We were losing close to 30 guys a month to other airlines at that time.