Same could be said of ASA, but the problem being is the senior guys that got here have stayed here and, for the most part, not moved on because it would be a major step backwards for them monetarily...I'm sure this could be correlated to almost any other airline as well with 2008 being the complete debacle that it was...hopefully things will pick up somewhere between now and my retirement date of 2048....( god i think i just puked a little )