Originally Posted by
PapaMike
There has been no valid arguement to say why anyone feels it's ok to bastardize one group of pilots for doing the same work on the same equipment.
I have seen all I need to see. But why do you think some pilots deserve more gold than others? Why should a mesaba guys make more for the same work as another guy.
Not to mention the fact that we are supposed to be moving forward in the industry and lowering the pay does nothing to raise the bar!
We vote no then we get mesaba's pay rate anyway. So bye-bye 32 bucks an hour.
Obviously, how can they say it wasn't a win to get a contract signed that didn't pay everyone the same. And payed a 74 seat plane well below industry average.
Fair is fair. Saying we will get 'em next time just isn't the way to do it
Having talked with one of the CJC negotiators there are reasons the TA ended up the way it did. (I encourage you to email the JNC as the Exec Summary solicits questions.)
This is not bastardizing the group of CJC pilots. It may appear as such if you open up the payrates section alone, however how would you feel if you were a Mesaba pilot? They are not seeing ANY increase in their pay on the Saab. Our pilots are seeing between anywhere from 1.9% to 23.4% in the payrates alone. The Mesaba rate disappears when a pilot moves from that seat (a Mesaba Saab FO will not upgrade into the grandfathered rate).
This was a move made within hours of striking a TA, and to get the TA passed, the JNC held firm that no one could take a paycut. So to avoid Mesaba CA/FO paycuts on the Saab they made the grandfather rate.
The Q pays at the pretty much the current Horizon rates starting at year 3 and exceeds Horizon by the end of the contract. Horizon rates are most likely to stay the same or go down with their new TA.
If you think we are better off going to Mesaba's contract, you have forgotten about the whipsaw possibility. The biggest part of this entire deal is all the PNCL Corp flying will be done by our integrated seniority list. If we end up as two lists and two contracts (Pinnacle/Mesaba if we assumed the latter's contract) what happens when PT decides he wants to purchase Horizon or Comair?
Let's not $hit ourselves here.