Originally Posted by
jayray2
Maybe so, but apparently I have more of a grasp on reality than you have.
And that reality is there are some gains. Absolutely there are some gains, specifically (depending on the final language) scope.
But there are some loses.
A 74 pax TP (which according to the higher-ups at Colgan are the future) is below 50 pax JET rates. Depending on who one talks to, 50 pax jets days are numbered. So management may be looking at giving the 50 pax jets the moon knowing the 74 pax TP will replace them.
Saabs have taken a hit (except for the current Mesaba CAs). The standard pay rate (the rate every non Mesaba CA gets) is BELOW Mesaba pay rates. So Saab pilots (including the Mesaba FOs who upgrade) will be working BELOW current Mesaba rates. If the TA for Saabs was a continuation of Mesaba's rates (even including a signing bonus for current Mesaba Pilots), I would have been on board. But lowering the rate for the vast majority of 30ish seat TP pilots is a sell out.
Honestly, I don't know how I will vote. There is a lot of good in the TA, but there are several areas I am concerned about.
(again, I appreciate the work our negotiators have done and do NOT want my complaints to be a reflection on you guys)