Originally Posted by
ASAnotASAP
Tens of millions of working people pay no taxes. In fact, many get "refunds." Google "EITC."
Sorry to hijack again, but back to taxes. You are a total idiot. Do you not understand how taxes work? You're right, tens of millions of people get refunds, but that doesn't mean they don't pay taxes. Every paycheck, the government (state and federal) withhold some of your pay. How much is determined by how many deductions you claim. 0 withholds the most. When you are filing your tax return, you are calculating your tax liability. If your tax liability is higher than what you had withheld, you owe more money. If your liability is lower than what was withheld, you get a refund for the amount in excess of the liability. In both cases, you are still paying taxes. The poor aren't avoiding taxes. They just have access to tax credits to help them lower their liability and get a bigger return than they might otherwise. What's wrong with that? What you want to kick some poor guy making 10k even more while he's already down? But moral of the story is, a refund does NOT = not paying taxes. I got a refund last year and I can tell you I paid thousands of dollars in taxes. I only claimed 1 deduction on my W4.
As to the issue of "paying your fair share," I can tell you right now that if you ask 10 different people what fair means, you will probably get 10 different answers. My personal school of thought is that the current system is fine. The reason I think so is that the absolute amount of money left over after paying taxes has to figure into the equation somehow. For example, let's use today's tax bracket system. Under this system if person A made $10,000 he/she would owe $1081.25 and have $8918.75 left. If person B made $100,000, they would owe $21,709.25 and have $78,290.75 left. Now instead of a bracket system, let's have EVERYONE pay a flat tax of let's say 20%. Well under this system, if person A makes $10,000 they are paying $2000 and person B making $100,000 pays $20,000. You just DOUBLED the tax the person making jack $hit has to pay, and barely affected (positively I might add) the person who has tons of money left for themselves. Now that person making nothing to begin with has even less money to try to climb out of poverty and the person making @$$ loads of money is happier even though it barely affected them at all anyways. The cost of necessities is basically fixed so the flat taxes severely punishes those in poverty and even the low to mid middle class.
There is one thing I think everyone can agree on though. Everyone needs to pay what they owe. Tax evasion is illegal, selfish and in my mind, almost as bad as treason. I also think we need to close tax loopholes that the wealthy politicians write into our legal code at the will of other wealthy individuals and corporations. Pay what you owe and if you think you owe too much, contact your senator and let them know or go run to be one yourself, but pay your damn taxes!