Originally Posted by
johnso29
No no no no. Either I need to re-write my post or you misunderstood me. I was merely agreeing that our current pay rates are among the best in the industry. That doesn't mean I'm happy with them, or that I don't want to get pre BK wages. I WANT better pay raises, but not JUST pay raises. I know we are in agreement on this.
Yes, we do agree on this. But here's what you wrote:
Originally Posted by
johnso29
Agreed. JetBlue just got raises & they didn't even match our 320 rates, let alone exceed them. And have you seen what North American or Omni get paid to fly their jets? How about Kalitta, Atlas, World, Southern, Polar, or Evergreen?
We need to look beyond pay rates. I want rate raises too, but we need to work on rigs & work rules too.
You seem to be justifying our current rates as being better than "industry standard" and making the case AGAINST the kind of increases that would be truly restorative. I don't have a problem with improving rigs & work rules... but I don't see what we have now as being all that bad. To me the real critical areas are pay and scope. Those are the two areas that are far below where they should be. Again, you seem to be arguing against restorative improvements in those areas. Am I misunderstanding you?