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Old 01-02-2011 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by jetnwa
Sorry ACL,

Jack and Carl are exactly right. As Jack mentions, if the 51% Scope Sale occurs the damage will be done. It will happen so fast it will make your head spin. There is a difference between being "furloughed" and having your job "outsourced".

After 5 years off the property and out nearly a half a million in airline earnings, I don't plan on giving anyone the benefit of the doubt about what the feedback is. People are not going to listen to any "fear mongering", "the bigger RJs are place holders", "we need them for growth". That is why we are suspicious when Scope isn't mentioned or discussed by the MEC.

Although the Mitsubishi aircraft has made some sales, the real players will be the Big EMBs and the C Series. IMHO, somebody will be flying those aircraft as there is a huge gap between the 76 seat and A319 revenue market. With the company delevering the balance sheet (and good they are), I don't expect a large "new" aircraft order for us soon.

Carl is right in making it extremely painful for the Reps/MEC if a Scope Sale occurs. Personally, I believe it would go nuclear for the union in a New York minute and ALPA would be "out". The large RJ issue needs to be nipped in the bud at the start and a hard line taken.
They are place holders. The fact that you seem to have not gotten is that the MEC Council (You reps) are in no mood to TA anything that would give any more scope up. Period. Call your reps and ask em. I have not found one rep in our entire system that has given a conditional response to that question. I have phrased it every which way, and the answer is always the same:
I do not care how it is packaged, I will not be voting for anything that further relaxes the 76 seat limit. Same holds true for other scope as well.

All of the reps I have talked to say the decision is simple. If DAL wants to fly a bigger jet than 76 seats, they can, but it will be flown by Delta pilots. Period, end of story, not mincing of words.

I am what many would term a scope hawk and I am telling you that I am satisfied with their charge. Furthermore, if anything ever got our of MEC Council, I am convinced that even with a 100% pay bump it would be voted down. Guys see what DCI and other scope has done to career progression.

Keep their feet to the fire, but understand that all of the current reps ran on no scope sales. If anything it is one of the easiest decisions for them.