Originally Posted by Bellanca
While some of you are on the topic of commercial multi students logging PIC with an instructor before they have a multi rating, do you know if that PIC time counts towards the 15 hours of multi PIC required for MEI?
Originally Posted by
Ewfflyer
In this scenario, you would be logging illegally. You can't log PIC if you aren't even rated yet. That would definitley raise the red flag for me.
I think Bellanca is referring to the "supervised PIC" provision. I don't have FAR's handy either (yeah, another lame excuse
), but this was set up to allow a primary student getting his first license in a multiengine f/w airplane to log "solo" time, IIRC. (No insurance company would sign off on "real" solo). 61.129 (b) (4)
The reg says such time can be used to satisfy the solo flight time requirement, but is silent otherwise. It says the same thing for actual solo flight time as well, though, so the honest answer is, "I dunno for sure". Just because a FSDO says yes or no doesn't make it so. AOPA used to have some people who were quite knowledgeable on this stuff. It's really rare for someone to go for their multi first (primary training scenario), but not unheard of. I didn't even know about it until a couple of years ago (through this board, actually). It's not a good thing (which could explain the FSDO's attitude), but I see the practical necessity - somewhat.