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Old 01-06-2011 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MILUAL
I come here sporadically so I know this was a couple weeks back, but as a current bus guy that lived through the UAL decade of watching furloughs I want to comment.

You are wrong. Sometimes it is alpa that furloughs. It was alpa and paul whitford, with chuck pierce at his side, that caused over 1000 additional furloughs by negotiating super high hour lines and S&#T work rules to save his unsaveable A-fund. He then signed away big RJs with one pen stroke. Then alpa shoved age 65 up our a$$, against the wide majority of alpa pilots, without the courtasy of a reach around. Adding 5ish years to current furloughs without so much as a thought because that was prater's agenda item. Current furloughs would be largely over were it not for alpa, thus making them alpa furloughs. Yea, was it the company that sent out the furlough notices? Yes. Are a large number the result of alpa actions. YES! Thus making them all alpa's.

Do I think JB and everyone else should be unionized. HELL YES.....but as much good as alpa has done in the past, they have done more harm this decade. The reason alpa continues to get away with this sh%t is people that don't put the proper blame at their feet. It is management's job to f&$k me over for an extra nickle. It is alpa's job to protect my career. Score the win for management last decade. Hopefully we can pull our alpa head out of our a$$ and make this decade better for the profession.
Some good facts.

But the facts that you are leaving our are:

1. Your MEC did this. Not ALPA. ALPA national supports the MEC. Your MEC sold these pilots down the river to save thier retirement.

2. Your pilot group voted to accept this contract. Thus your pilots screwed the pilots that where furloughed, not ALPA.

3. Age 65 was done based on a survey of all ALPA pilots. The majority of all ALPA pilots want this. Again, blame the pilots, not ALPA for doing what their members wanted. (personally I think age 65 was wrong, but I had not vote here at JB).

Again, what everyone that is ANTI ALPA talks about is how "they where screwed by ALPA. Again, they were screwed by their airline and their local MEC and pilot group (ref above), not by ALPA. Sometimes democracy sucks, especially when the majoirty screws the minority.

Just my opinion.......

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