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Old 01-14-2011 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DashGirl
Seems to me I think you were just looking to find something in my post to disagree with just for the sake of disagreeing. Because the part of your post I quoted is just my opinion put nicer. I have no beef with our Check Airmen or instructor staff and I made it clear to that point. My issue as well as that of our collective pilot group and our union is with the management of the training department. Two individuals specifically whose names will remain unnamed. I've never had a run in with them or any trouble in training. I just don't care for their hollier than tho attitude. It's the vindictive behavior of the department which turns my stomach. Additional training if needed for a pilot they like, none for the pilot they don't. Forced downgrade for Captains that can fly circles around any of them but welcome to left seat for our idiot captains that only know how to fly a fracking POH...It's a poorly run department..period. Rampant double standards and open favoritism. When they let our instructors and check airman actually instruct, let us review the AQP manual for CBA compliance and fair practices then we can talk about having a good training department.
I can completely agree with you about one of those individuals. As far as the forced downgrades, I flew with most if not all of the guys who got booted and I can see where issues may have arisen with many. There is one in particular who I flew with on numerous occasions where the only conclusion I can draw is that person had a VERY bad day in the sim. He is a good pilot and made sound decisions each time we flew together.

I never saw any favoritism there. You earned your pass or fail. If you needed additional training, you got it. I saw a new hire finally pass his MV on sim lesson #26.......
Let me ask you something. have you ever got one of the good guys down there to talk with you off the record about how they feel about their bosses and how the dept in general is run? All will deny ever speaking out against them, but several of them have major issues with the mgt mentality and total stagnation towards the progressive development of the training department.
I've had lots of beer with several of them. I'll never say there aren't issues.
You have your opinion. I have min, but I don't even thing you can disagree with the fact that the vast majority of our pilot group would lean towards mine vs. yours. What does that say? In a recent meeting between the TD and our union, our training committee chair was asked, "why do you guys hate us so much?"..His response..."Where do I begin."
It would depend on who in the pilot group you are talking about. No one likes going to training. Most get through with no problems and have no complaints. Others get through just fine and complain about it. A few more go, have trouble, and try to pin it on the training dept. There is a distinct difference in the views of pilots who are ex-ALG over those who are native PDT, and more differences in those who were hired around the time of the merger, to those who were hired in '07. Differences in background and previous training is the root cause of that.
I respect your opinion. But I respectfully disagree.
I can certainly live with that. I'll agree that the top of the training dept could use some adjustment, but I have to say that the challenges in PDT newhire training are largely due to the experience levels of the pilots being hired. It was that way when I went through 2000 years ago. Those of us with turbine time were hanging out in the bar after class and passed our tests without too much sweat while those without studied hard and squeaked by.

Other airlines adjusted their training departments to cater to low experience, no turbine time newhires. Piedmont did not.

When you go through another airlines' program you'll get to see the true strength and weaknesses of the PDT program.
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