Why can't you stop at making
this very important point...
Originally Posted by
JABDIP
Excellent post. Everyone seems to harp about the all mighty hourly pay rate, but work rules are huge especially when it come to quality of life, quality of rotations, and pilot productivity. Hopefully, C2012 will have a good revamp of work rules.

...without getting stuck in
this ridiculous and divisive crap?
Originally Posted by
JABDIP
I haven't found any improvements to forget. Seriously, to put it in simple terms, I made less w-2 money in the last 2 years than my last year under fNWA contract averaging the same number of hours of pay per month. Also I am working 36-40 days a year more under DAL work rules for less money. This year I will finally make more than my last fNWA contract year. It goes back to those work rules that Sailing was talking about. I can go on with the things that I had before that I do not have now, but what good would that do. It is always perceived as whinning on here. Hands down with my experince with the DAL contract which is limited, today I would choose the fNWA contract over the current DAL contract. As bad as it was I still think it was much better in QOL issues. I prefer to have rose colored glasses rather than blinders.

Honestly, you're not going to convince the DAL group that your contract was better. Maybe it goes to the heart of the SLI discussion, and maybe some of the beliefs on either side qualify as "faith-based". Maybe it's because you voted overwhelmingly for the JCBA that we don't believe you, or maybe it's simply because all pilots want to believe they are better that we never will believe you. Regardless of the reasons we won't buy into this, the truth is
we don't care what the QOL was a Northwest. And I don't see how anyone should care. That's because there is no benefit in looking backwards. All we have is the Delta contract, and we need to figure which parts need to be modified, and which parts need to be torn out, spit on, and burned to the ground. This is the
only way in which it's interesting to talk about
specific points in the fNWA contracts that could be useful, but then again, it's not any more interesting than the good points of the FedEx contract, or the Continental contract, or
any contract, because we only need be focused on making the best
Delta contract possible.
If the fNWA was that much better, good for you. I hope you enjoyed while you had it. Unfortunately, that's not the contract you live under. So why not talk about a better contract for all Delta pilots, including you of course, and leave it at that?