Let's not go casting threats toward one another. Fishfreighter is entitled to his opinion and he has two accomplishments to his name, my first and second post after years respectively.

To reply to your quote, Bill Ayer must be the most truthful person in lives of many Alaska pilots. It's great to have great leaders.

Fish, I value your opinion and want to learn from you. Between two leaders, who's the best? Your choice is Virgin americas chairman of the board Donald Carty, or ex-Alaska ceo John Kelly with all his oil under Alaska's rock. I know how revered Don is at American, but he's also on the board of Hawaiian. My vote would be for John as not only did he walk away with a gold mine after running the stock up to over $70 before his retirement, but he's also got friends in high places to avoid criminal prosecution. He's got to be up there with Lorenzo as one of the greats. Bill Aire is great too, you should take another paycut to feed his bonus.

Maybe you need to get those little religous things back with your meals, it might remind you that he who is without sin can cast the first stone. I'm sure that was way off too, hence the reason I don't cast the first stone against Alaska every other day when the Seattle Times posts something negative.

What shall we concentrate on, good news or bad? What improves life more, concentrating on the fact that American lost tons of money, or that 2011 the airlines are projected to profit over $5 billion.

Maybe you're doing a service to pilots that would like to gain employment at Virgin america by pointing out the negatives so that they could be well informed in their decision before making a change and commitment, since most of the press does show positive. If this is your motive, I give you a huge THANK YOU, as professionals do like to have all the facts before such a decision. Such a motivation is highly commendable.