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Old 01-27-2011 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by oldcarpilot
OK XJT guys listen to what is being said... XJT will no longer be building your lines. So all those 2 days you may have now will no longer exist when ASA builds the parings. Doesn't matter if you have line bidding or if you have PBS. ASA loves 4 days unless you are in the top 1/4. They are limited to 60% 4 days, but their interpretation of that is that is 60% for the entire company. So they see that as ALL BASES. Our IAD base has nothing but 4 days and CDOs. That needs to change on a base by base case.
OK ASEA types, "listen up"!. WE GET THAT! WE GET THAT ASA MANAGEMENT WILL BE RUNNING THE SHOW!!!! That's not the point of what I'm getting at. What I'm saying, that you're NOT hearing, is that although those 2 days may not have been in the "pool" for the initial bid, with line bid conflict they will become available in the pool. Read the end for a little more on this.

Originally Posted by selcal
Just checked opentime for cr2ATL and counted 5 two day trips that were not naps. Apparently this month the company made tons of naps, who knows if that will continue.

As the others have said they definitely have a hard-on with 4 day trips. SH or CT will come into recurrent and profess that 4 day trips are the most efficient (actually SH said 5 days were, but they are not allowed). They will come up with the stupidest reasons why, and the reasons change every month. The best thing we can do is negotiate a specific trip mix, or raise the min day. The company will argue till they are blue the face how 3 day trips are inefficient, however flying a 4 day trip with a 40 hour layover in columbus, ga is somehow very efficient..................
We suffer the same issue, 4 days are the most efficient for the company for a bunch of reasons. Staging, daily productivity, etc.

I just went into open time, IAH is showing 45 open 1 and 2 day pairings. Before the ILIW opened up, it was more (way more) than that.

Originally Posted by RamenNoodles
Let me add that we now have the ability under the PBS LOA to drop PORTIONS of our trips. Let's say you are awarded 4 days and can't swap for something else. You can break up your own pairings, but you can't simply drop those portions into open time; they have to be picked up by another pilot.
Well, that's a good thing. XJT has had this for years. And to key on what I said above, we could advertise portions of trip for pick up as well. So a guy could advertise/drop days 3 and 4 of a 4 day to be home on night 2, THEN go back in and pick up a 2 day due to the massive amount of open time available. So now he has back to back 2 days instead of a 4 day. The amount of flexibility with the line bid system just can't be compared to the PBS one shot deal with limited flexibility later. Especially if what you bid for has to be altered for whatever reason. Family, change of plans, whatever.
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