Originally Posted by
OHPilot213
Ok, the only problem I had with that is if I do lets say a teardrop entry like i said earlier, if i fly outbound for 4NM it will probably take me a lot longer than 1min in most single engine trainers. When you go to make a turn back to intercept the inbound course you really would not know how steep/shallow to make the turn so it can be relatively continuous, If you use the 1 minute outbound for the entry then it should be a consistent and continuous bank standard rate turn back to intercept the inbound course. Also when the 4NM is depicted on a GPS approach plate it usually has a line on the outbound leg at the end of the leg, my interpretation is that this is the point in the hold where you should be 4NM from the fix you are holding around, not at any other point during the hold including the entry. Not sure what others think, I just need a little more convincing evidence and reference before I teach it a different way, plus my method works and I know many others that teach it my way too.
As others have said though - the leg has now been defined for *some* reason. Yes - when it was a timing problem, the 1 minute outbund during the entry would set you up close the required holding time for the inbound leg, then you adjusted accordingly for the proper timing.
For *some* reason now - they want you to fly a 4 mile leg. So you fly out to the 4 miles, turn inbound with an intercept heading and you find yourself on an approx 4 nm leg inbound. I don't remember a constant rate turn on a teardrop putting you right back on the inbound course in case. I thought you took a 30 deg cut back to the inbound course and intercepted it. I remember a no-wind, perfectly flown (constant airspeed and AOB) 90/270 doing that
Yep - I taught it your way to in the past. Personally - I think I was wrong now. Not that I will be teaching anybody - anything for a long time, but I would use the aforementioned references and change my approach if I found myself in such a position. I understand your position though and I'm just on the other side of it. I know need more convincing that it is the *other* way.
If I get a chance through, maybe I'll do a little more indepth research and see if I can come up with some more information one way or the other.
USMCFLYR