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Old 01-29-2011 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
MOD INPUT: Let's drop the political talk, ie the Birth Certificate stuff.

FWI, Obama's mother was a US citizen, so he is automatically a citizen by birth regardless of who his father was or where he was born. Even if another country declared him a citizen that does not invalidate US citizenship, so he could have a birth cert declaring him a citizen of somewhere else and still be good to go here. The US allows dual citizenship, which often occurs due to accidents of birth location. The law is clear on this, not really any room for debate.

Arnold was not born here, and was not born to a US parent so he cannot be a citizen by birth.
I agree, however it is not nearly as clear cut as you make it sound, and of course there is a whole slew of other information that has been carefully scrubbed at great expense:

Original, vault copy of Certificate of Live Birth in the USA -- Not Released
Certificate of Live Birth -- Released - Proven Counterfeit
Obama/Dunham marriage license -- Not released

Soetoro/Dunham marriage license -- Not released

Soetoro adoption records -- Not released

Fransiskus Assisi School application -- Not Released

Punahou School records -- Not released

Selective Service Registration -- Released - Proven Counterfeit

Occidental College records -- Not released

Passport (Pakistan) -- Not released

Columbia College records -- Not released

Columbia thesis -- Not released

Harvard College records -- Not released

Harvard Law Review articles -- None (maybe 1, Not Signed)

Baptism certificate -- None

Medical records -- Not released

Illinois State Senate records -- None (Locked up to prohibit public view)

Illinois State Senate schedule -- Lost (All other Illinois state senators' records are intact)

Law practice client list -- Not released

University of Chicago scholarly articles -- None


Needless to say, there are a great many questions unanswered, and those asking are not going away. In fact, we have no official record of who his parents were, unless you accept an obvious forgery. They did not use that font in 1961, and the records were done with a combination of typewriter and handwriting. Compare the offered example to an actual contemporary certificate and it becomes immediately clear.
If anyone can provide official documents related to the above list, I will be happy to review them via PM. Thanks.

Why all the mystery, where is it? I would think he would be proud of both his heritage and academic record. Unless...

Last edited by jungle; 01-29-2011 at 11:18 PM.
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